【满族】分享我爷爷的报告供大家参考，在他之前家里不通婚

乐无异

你这个情况其实不难解释，现在申报的满族，就是清朝时期的旗人，旗人包括的满洲八旗、汉军八旗和蒙古八旗，满洲八旗就是明末的女真各部以及生活在黑龙江流域的索伦人（今天的鄂伦春、锡伯、达斡尔、鄂温克等民族），汉军主要是被征服的辽东汉人，蒙古八旗是东蒙古的科尔沁、扎鲁特还有察哈尔林丹汗的部众，可以说现在的满族祖源构成是比较复杂的。
清朝的政策，是旗民之间不得通婚，民人就是不在旗籍的汉人，而非满汉之间不得通婚，就是说，满洲旗人可以和汉军、蒙古旗人通婚，但不能和不在旗籍的汉人通婚。所以，这就造成了很多不和民人通婚的满洲旗人也有汉人血统。

赞同来自: kumotan 、Daisysii 、Pangur 、黎夕夕、WeGene_7F04D7E4

(5)

2018-03-07 • IP属地沈阳 • 评论 (1)

lulusure

我的结果终于出来了！来更新一波～
我是在23andme做的，等了9个多星期，中间提取的时候失败了一次，23andme也给我退了钱。还是不推荐大家23andme，感觉效率比较低，因为有很多一部分人都和我情况一样，有的人甚至等了更久，也失败了很多次。我也不知道我的数据到底是不是那么准确了。我打算回国再做一次wegene，对比一下。

0F345651-4E5D-4672-96F5-4D1FD7C947BB-11563-00000D32E46AB8D7_tmp.JPG

我妈妈也是汉族，我觉得我的数据已经体现不出什么特点了，给大家参考一下哈哈～
e11什么的我都测不了，因为版本问题，23andme的数据在这里点位覆盖低

赞同来自: 柏贝勒、Jpayne 、mangga 、为什么小姐

(4)

2018-03-01 • IP属地美国 • 评论 (9)

lulusure

更新一下祖源相似性：

我爷爷的：

我爸的：

MrTiung

从k7b来看确实是东北亚了，华北汉族的西伯利亚一般在20-23之间，26的西伯利亚已经接近日韩的水平了

高调的CELF2基因

Gedmatch MDLP K23b is by far the best calculator for detecting Manchu/Tungusic genes, since it uses Ulchi as a reference under "Tungus-Altai" besides Siberian populations. Other calculators just use Nganasan, an extremely northern Siberian people, as the only reference vs Southeast Asian. It's best under MDLP K23b's population-references to see how much total "Tungus-Altaic" (Ulchi), "East Siberian" (Nganasan) + Paleo-Siberian your samples have to see actually how much Manchurian ancestry you have. Then compare them with Xinjiang Xibo, Hezhen, Oroqen and Ulchi in the spreadsheet vs "Han_North". You might get results more similar to Japanese and Koreans than on Wegene.

It's relatively simple process uploading 23andme data to Gedmatch. Good luck

lulusure

23andme 更新后：（其实数字都没变）

liu7654321

瓦房店的老乡给你点个赞！

zjw2018

三台子有个西蓝旗，还有条大河能钓鱼，涨潮时要小心，曾差点被困在沙丘上/::>

havefun

从k47结果上看，关内满族和关外满族有明显差异。关内和汉族无异，关外明显通古斯比例更高。但如果参考蒙古族，则即使是辽宁满族，依旧是以辽东汉人为基础。不知道黑龙江满族的结果里东亚和中国南方比例是否会进一步降低。其实我比较好奇同样属于通古斯语系的鄂伦春人的k47结果会不会和一些蒙古族一样东亚和中国南方比例极低。

高兴的DAB1基因

您爷爷不通婚只有28%的蒙古通古斯。
我河北汉族也有26%
看来也是蒙满基因。

huh_li

我们通辽老家确实有关姓蒙古族自称祖上满族人的。

很嗨的REEP3基因

{"result":[{"race_desc":"\u4e2d\u534e\u6c11\u65cf","race_en":"chinese_nation","race_probality":"0.902700","area":[{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u8499\u53e4\u8bed\u65cf\u7fa4","race_en":"mongolian","race_probality":"0.429673"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u5317\u65b9\u6c49\u65cf","race_en":"han_northern","race_probality":"0.421035"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u901a\u53e4\u65af\u65cf\u7fa4","race_en":"tungus","race_probality":"0.051902"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0002"}]},{"race_desc":"\u4e1c\u5317\u4e9a","race_en":"ne_asian","race_probality":"0.094148","area":[{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u96c5\u5e93\u7279","race_en":"yakut","race_probality":"0.047314"},{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u65e5\u672c","race_en":"japanese","race_probality":"0.030290"},{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u97e9\u56fd","race_en":"korean","race_probality":"0.016544"},{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0001"}]},{"race_desc":"\u7f8e\u6d32","race_en":"american","race_probality":"0.002912","area":[{"block":"american","race_desc":"\u58a8\u897f\u54e5\u739b\u96c5\u4eba","race_en":"mayan","race_probality":"0.002892"},{"block":"american","race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0001"}]},{"race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0003","area":[]}],"case_id":"ANCESTRY","prefix":null,"description":"\u7956\u6e90\u5206\u6790","color":null,"detail_url":"\/report2\/ancestry\/"}

北京汉族，我们很像

天秤的TTTY8基因

E11拿出来看看

lulusure

天秤的TTTY8基因

华东没过43％，基本排除纯汉族。没有欧印成分说明没有蒙古成分。鄂伦春和雅库特已经超过北方汉族的值了。比较纯的满族。不过依然不能排除爷爷往上有汉族成分混入

求醉的PLCB1基因

你爷的和我很像

lulusure

我爸爸的：（我奶奶是汉族）
母系单倍群：B4h
Wegene:

dna.land:

K7b:

E11:

求醉的PLCB1基因

潇洒的EPHB1基因

我是汉族，家里没听说有满族人，但是有很高的通古斯。。。

fengshuozai

看来纯满族就比北汉多一点通古斯。果然满汉一家亲

lulusure

爷爷的k12b

lulusure

我爸的k12b

不羁的PCAT5基因

你奶奶比你爷爷西欧亚高一点，北一点！

Hazel_841 - MT G1a1

所以满族其实有比较多的彝族纳西成分？也就是说故事的开始可能有一拨人跟彝族分化往东北一路前行？

Jpayne

瓦房店我还去过，那边老一辈的祖源基本北方人，听说那里有大金矿哦

j785733046

感谢分享！之前也在论坛上发过问题帖，对自己的父系有疑问。本人祖上爱新觉罗氏镶黄旗，中法战争中家人战死后迁居南方

Passionate

我和楼主的祖籍很相似，爷爷姥姥姥爷都是瓦房店的，奶奶是法库的，爷爷和奶奶都是汉族，姥姥姥爷都是满族正黄旗，乌拉那拉氏。父系C2e2母系Y1~手机打字排版不好

Kylecheng

我也是满族人我爸O2a2b1a2a1a2a1

lulusure

Gedmatch MDLP K23b:

爷爷：

爸爸：

lulusure

My Gedmatch MDLP K23b

温柔的11号染色体

谢谢楼主的分享，另外很惊奇，one to many列表里竟然有3个人重合。

蓝

请问有没有爷爷的K47呢？

大凌河

瓜尔佳氏是 O2a2a1a2a1a，还是令我有些意外

lulusure

我爷爷的k47:

东亚 38.374 %
中国南方人 27.936 %
通古斯语族群 11.982 %
蒙古人 10.012 %
藏缅族群 5.540 %
原始南岛语族群 2.559 %
阿尔泰人 2.511 %
马来人 0.721 %
中美印第安人 0.154 %
亚马逊人 0.116 %
北美印第安人 0.059 %

zhaoye

我是满族赵姓，祖姓是啥不知道，单倍群是o-f402

一叶扁舟z

哈哈，你的跟我比较类似，百分之六十几北方汉族，二三十蒙古语族，还有苗瑶语族，不过我是汉族的

激动的ABCC1基因

都百分之六七十的汉族血统了还分什么满族啊

酷酷的GLIS3基因

欢迎加入y染色体m7（o2a2a1a2）群，群聊号码：499423608

迷茫的TMTC1基因

{"result":[{"race_desc":"\u4e2d\u534e\u6c11\u65cf","race_en":"chinese_nation","race_probality":"0.942057","area":[{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u5317\u65b9\u6c49\u65cf","race_en":"han_northern","race_probality":"0.730255"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u5357\u65b9\u6c49\u65cf","race_en":"han_southern","race_probality":"0.137752"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u901a\u53e4\u65af\u65cf\u7fa4","race_en":"tungus","race_probality":"0.041540"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u85cf\u65cf","race_en":"tibetan","race_probality":"0.021819"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u7572\u65cf","race_en":"she","race_probality":"0.010621"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0002"}]},{"race_desc":"\u4e1c\u5317\u4e9a","race_en":"ne_asian","race_probality":"0.050623","area":[{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u96c5\u5e93\u7279","race_en":"yakut","race_probality":"0.027445"},{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u97e9\u56fd","race_en":"korean","race_probality":"0.023168"},{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0001"}]},{"race_desc":"\u4e1c\u5357\u4e9a","race_en":"se_asian","race_probality":"0.007080","area":[{"block":"se_asian","race_desc":"\u8d8a\u5357\u4eac\u65cf","race_en":"kinh","race_probality":"0.007060"}]},{"race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0004","area":[]}],"case_id":"ANCESTRY","prefix":null,"description":"\u7956\u6e90\u5206\u6790","color":null,"detail_url":"\/report2\/ancestry\/"}

Screenshot_2019-07-07-06-42-19-600_com.android_.chrome_.png

E11北方成分和您爷爷很接近啊

关大进 - 我们都是来自非洲，为了生存走到一起。

你认识关多军？高力城的。

lulusure

爷爷的祖源相似性-按民族比较

lulusure

民族单项比较

lulusure

{"result":[{"race_desc":"\u4e2d\u534e\u6c11\u65cf","race_en":"chinese_nation","race_probality":"0.927817","area":[{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u5317\u65b9\u6c49\u65cf","race_en":"han_northern","race_probality":"0.624460"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u8499\u53e4\u8bed\u65cf\u7fa4","race_en":"mongolian","race_probality":"0.270410"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u7572\u65cf","race_en":"she","race_probality":"0.032857"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0002"}]},{"race_desc":"\u4e1c\u5317\u4e9a","race_en":"ne_asian","race_probality":"0.067683","area":[{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u65e5\u672c","race_en":"japanese","race_probality":"0.058069"},{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u97e9\u56fd","race_en":"korean","race_probality":"0.009604"}]},{"race_desc":"\u4e1c\u5357\u4e9a","race_en":"se_asian","race_probality":"0.002851","area":[{"block":"se_asian","race_desc":"\u6cf0\u56fd","race_en":"thai","race_probality":"0.002831"}]},{"race_desc":"\u7f8e\u6d32","race_en":"american","race_probality":"0.001440","area":[{"block":"american","race_desc":"\u56e0\u7ebd\u7279\u4eba","race_en":"eskimo","race_probality":"0.001420"}]},{"race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0004","area":[]}],"case_id":"ANCESTRY","prefix":null,"description":"\u7956\u6e90\u5206\u6790","color":null,"detail_url":"\/report2\/ancestry\/"}

我姥姥，北方汉族，报告和按民族比较

lulusure

我爸爸的，我奶奶是北方汉族，哈哈好神奇

舒穆禄_纳慕 - Sumuru Namu

{"result":[{"race_desc":"\u4e2d\u534e\u6c11\u65cf","race_en":"chinese_nation","race_probality":"0.910302","area":[{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u8499\u53e4\u8bed\u65cf\u7fa4","race_en":"mongolian","race_probality":"0.414127"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u5357\u65b9\u6c49\u65cf","race_en":"han_southern","race_probality":"0.308885"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u5317\u65b9\u6c49\u65cf","race_en":"han_northern","race_probality":"0.157854"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u82d7\u7476\u8bed\u65cf\u7fa4","race_en":"miao_yao","race_probality":"0.021840"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u85cf\u65cf","race_en":"tibetan","race_probality":"0.007526"},{"block":"chinese_nation","race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0003"}]},{"race_desc":"\u4e1c\u5317\u4e9a","race_en":"ne_asian","race_probality":"0.081734","area":[{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u65e5\u672c","race_en":"japanese","race_probality":"0.059928"},{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u97e9\u56fd","race_en":"korean","race_probality":"0.021796"},{"block":"ne_asian","race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0001"}]},{"race_desc":"\u5357\u4e9a","race_en":"south_asian","race_probality":"0.007724","area":[{"block":"south_asian","race_desc":"\u5370\u5ea6","race_en":"mala","race_probality":"0.007704"}]},{"race_desc":"\u5176\u4ed6","race_en":"other","race_probality":"0.0003","area":[]}],"case_id":"ANCESTRY","prefix":null,"description":"\u7956\u6e90\u5206\u6790","color":null,"detail_url":"\/report2\/ancestry\/"}

Screenshot_20191022_213121_com.android_.chrome_mh1571733733851_.jpg

这是我的数据，奶奶家那边是旗人。所以我怀疑是蒙八旗。

沉稳的OPCML基因

[ 由于内容不当, 此内容已被隐藏 ]

Puksin

看来纯满族和北汉的区别就在于通古斯的含量了，不过我很好奇为什么很多满族都测出纳西彝族？

与内容相关的链接

47 个回复